Ufologist David Sereda and inventor John Hutchison discussed the often difficult to duplicate Hutchison Effect and its relationship to UFO propulsion systems.

The Hutchison Effect uses RF fields and electrostatic energy to create an "interdimensional shift," Hutchison explained. He claimed his eponymously-named effect can render metal invisible. Sereda believes that UFOs utilize technology akin to the Hutchison Effect to "reduce the mass-gravity effect," essentially changing the mass of the spacecraft into light and allowing the vehicle to travel at the speed of light on small amounts of energy.

Hutchison also said he has recreated and tested the Ark of the Covenant, which during experimentation produced "lightning, flames, white lights and strange little entities." Sereda confirmed that he too has seen "three-dimensional beings" appear inside Hutchison Effect energy fields. He suggested Hutchison's apparatus may act as a medium, permitting one to see higher dimensional energies, and possibly communicate with God.